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  • #16
    Italy expands lockdown, Israel tightens entry to halt virus

    https://apnews.com/e1fe7ed2e111436c68c9673bee1c0d4c

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    • #17
      I read this a while back, but now that the WHO has declared coronavirus 2019 the cause of a pandemic, it's worth nothing that the World Bank had created a pandemic bond on the derivative markets in 2017 which were due to expire in July!

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/i...c-derivatives/

      These pandemic bonds were sold to investors as a giant gamble in the global financial casino. The World Bank sold “pandemic bonds” which were a scheme like no other. In 2017, these bonds were sold to private investors on the premise that they would lose their money if any of six deadly pandemics hit. They did not pay out in 2019 when the Ebola virus broke out in Africa. The World Bank announced the creation of these structured bonds in May 2016 at the G7 Finance Ministers and Central Governors meeting in Sendai, Japan.

      The World Health Organisation will keep the money and will use it to fight the outbreak. Investors bought the bonds and received regular coupon payments in return, which were substantial in this world of negative interest rates. If there is an outbreak of disease turned into a pandemic, then investors don’t get their initial money back.
      It would be in the interest of the World Health Organisation to declare this coronavirus a pandemic. They would benefit from the cash. The bondholders will lose.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Don Giovanni View Post
        There are reasons to suspect that this virus may have originated in a lab:

        https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...secret-bio-lab

        The HIV-like structure of the virus is suspicious.
        My first thought exactly. We preparing for 2050.

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        • #19


          https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...s-dead-spouses

          Thanks in part to President Trump’s nonchalant initial response (though as he demonstrated during last night’s Oval Office press conference, the president has changed his tune – or at least it appears that way), millions of Americans still believe the coronavirus is – worst case – like a bad flu.
          Actors Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson inadvertently amplified this idea when they reported feeling “a little achey” after testing positive for the virus in Australia.

          But after reading this desperate plea from an Italian citizen whose sister succumbed to Covid-19 before ever making it to a hospital, hopefully they’ll understand what’s really at stake here. As Dr. Scott Gottlieb said earlier on CNBC: It’s probably too late for America to be South Korea (aka taking swift steps to contain the outbreaks before they get out of control), but we don’t have to be Italy.
          When his sister died after contracting the novel coronavirus, Luca Franzese thought that things couldn’t get much worse.

          Then, for more than 36 hours, the Italian actor and mixed martial arts trainer was trapped at home with Teresa Franzese’s decaying body, unable to find a funeral home that would bury her.

          “I have my sister in bed, dead, I don’t know what to do,” Franzese said in a Facebook video over the weekend, pleading for help. “I cannot give her the honor she deserves because the institutions have abandoned me. I contacted everyone, but nobody was able to give me an answer.”

          Initially posted to Facebook, Luca’s video was also shared to YouTube as he and thousands of other Italians tried to get the message out: Local officials don’t care: Luca tried to find a funeral home to bury his sister and for weeks “ma nessuno ne fregata” – but nobody gave a fuck.

          Al Jazeera reported that Teresa Franzese, 47, suffered from epilepsy but was healthy up until last week, when she began showing symptoms of coronavirus. She died Saturday evening in her home in Naples, the country’s third-largest city, and the largest in the Italian south. Teresa was tested for the virus only after her death, Luca said.

          During a press conference last night, PM Giuseppe Conte warned that Italian people that although the government’s strict new measures to combat the virus might seem harsh at times, they are absolutely necessary to slow the spread of the virus and prevent Italy’s health-care system from being completely overrun.
          (emphasis not mine)

          This virus is a lot more serious than I had realized. An otherwise 47-year-old woman who probably thought she had the regular flu died. I think it's unlikely she would have succumb to death if she had gotten proper care, but that's just speculation on my part.

          They're saying 70 to 150 million Americans could get infected and that we'll see a mortality rate of about 1%.

          I'm not too concerned for myself, but I am concerned for older folks who are the most vulnerable. This is a serious disease. Stay safe everyone and don't underestimate this virus. If you see symptoms, seek proper care immediately. This isn't like the regular flu.

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          • #20


            There is a claim, which may or may not be valid, that this virus originated in a laboratory a mere 280-meters away from the Wuhan market and somehow got released (possibly due to oversight or poor management). As Tucker notes, there was a paper produced by a Chinese scientific journal that has since been censored in China which alleges that this virus may have been from a lab.

            No one is alleging China has hatched a plot to send a virus out to disrupt markets and sicken the world, but serious questions do need to be asked of Chinese authorities who generally think they can act however they wish and never have to answer to anybody but themselves. This is not a conspiracy theory, but the idea this virus was held in a lab and then somehow got out of that lab is not a far fetched possibility. These kind of questions must asked of China, but it seems many in the media are too timid to ask them out fear of being labelled xenophobic and for a lack of access to verifiable information. This is China we're talking about and their government is known to crackdown on information leaks.

            The Communist China party is deflecting criticism and claiming the virus might not even have originated in China! Their foreign spokesman recently alleged the virus could well have originated in the US and demanded that the US be more transparent, an obvious jab at American claims that China has been dishonest. They can't be allowed to get away with this kind of behavior.

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            • #21
              China most definitely covered up the extent of the virus while it was at its peak in Wuhan and other places. The lab-created origin of COVID-19 is too farfetched for me. The most likely explanation is animal --> human transmission, which is how many viruses originate (HIV being one example).

              Currently, we are not testing enough people nor putting enough quarantining measures in place. Expert estimates range from 50 - 150 million Americans becoming infected and a likely mortality rate between 2-5%. The mortality rate really depends on how quickly this spreads because if the medical system gets overwhelmed then treatment will suffer. This is what is happening in Italy now and I'm worried the rest of Europe and the USA aren't far behind.

              Good news is that Greece seems to be on pretty heavy lockdown with < 150 confirmed cases so far.

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              • #22
                The UK's approach is that everyone should get it to to create a herd immunity.

                UK government has not closed schools or stopped flights. The UK officially stated last night:

                The UK’s chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance said a level of herd immunity — where a significant proportion of people recover and become immune to the infection — was desirable and could protect the public in the event the virus became a seasonal infection.

                So to reiterate - the UK's plan is for the nation to become infected slowly, so that the nation creates a herd immunity. This seems bizarre as there are reports of people catching Corona repeatedly as the body does not naturally create an immunity to this virus due to the virus's strange structure.

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                  • #24
                    Bolsonaro tested positive and he was recently hanging out with many of America's conservative leaders, including Trump and Pence.

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                    • #25
                      Bolsonaro does not have it. His son made the claim originally, but then a second test came back negative. Trudeau's wife has it after their family visited the UK. It is getting around and directly affecting world leaders. Trump will declare a national emergency today.

                      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ronavirus.html

                      Originally it was claimed this virus had spread because people were eating bats. Now they're saying it's because they were eating pangolins (scaly anteaters). A spokesman for the Chinese government, perhaps somewhat whimsically and out of spite, alleged this virus may have come from the US. I think they, the Chinese Communist party, need to work with outside authorities and determine where this virus came from. Until the Chinese government does that, we shouldn't let them off the hook.

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                      • #26
                        The Communist Chinese are just like the Islamist Turks!

                        China claims the coronavirus came to China from the US army and the virus may have originated from people vaping and getting sick in the US! On top of that, they are threatening to restrict medical supplies if they continue to take any blame for the crisis or if the West doesn't ease up on restrictions on China according to their liking.

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                        • #27
                          The official UK strategy of allowing 40 million Brits to contract Corona to form an 'immunity herd' is questioned by the WHO:

                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rus-fight.html

                          Seems an absurd strategy considering there are countless cases of the Corona patients catching the virus a second and third time..

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                          • #28
                            Coronavirus in China kept me under quarantine. I felt safer there than back in the U.S.
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                            https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...re-ncna1158756

                            I’ve now lived through a coronavirus quarantine in the two countries, and the differences are stark well beyond their airports. In China, the obligation to isolate felt shared and the public changed their habits almost immediately. Sterilization, cleanliness and social distancing were prioritized by everyone at all times. Rightly or wrongly, the Chinese state’s heavy-handed approach seemed to work.

                            In contrast, individual liberty is the engine that drives American exceptionalism. There are certainly valid questions about how much of it to sacrifice in the name of the public good, but our laissez-faire attitude, prioritization of personal freedom and utter lack of government leadership have left Americans confused and exposed.
                            When the Swine flu hit in 2009 tens of thousands had died and the CDC estimated there was anywhere between 40 to 80 million cases (of which only a few hundred thousand were hospitalized).

                            Most people I know are confused as to why such a heavy handed response is needed, but that's the reason. China was heavily criticized for not doing more to contain the Swine flu so this time they overreacted and that added to everyone's confusion. It's China's response that's confusing the world. WHO also changed their standards for what qualifies as a pandemic since that time. It has to be remembered that China and WHO are overreacting because it's better to overreact than failing to react strong enough in case the virus is worst than originally believed to be.

                            I think it's enough to place some reasonable restrictions on travel, for event organizers to postpone or cancelled planned events, and for most people to take basic precautions to keep clean and help prevent the spread of the 2019 coronavirus.

                            At the end of the day, we are going to have to live with this disease. And the fact is China will need to develop a way to respond faster to these kinds of outbreaks so they can isolate it and prevent its spread from the very start. I still retain suspicions this virus likely got of their lab.

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                            • #29
                              Here's a great map produced by a team of researchers at John Hopkins university that helps visualize globally the spread of the virus:

                              https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

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                              • #30
                                Brace yourselves dudes. An typical Indonesian market - complete with bat, dog and rodent sections..

                                https://www.facebook.com/watchparty/...ry_source=FEED

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