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  • #16
    that series i told you about, nothing new in regards to contemporary tv - especially on the traditional networks.

    on that showtime series, the white people are bad. lawmakers/industry/doctors/police/religious in all those institutions are portrayed as nazis, killers, thieves, charlatans, gangsters, closeted homosexuals, bigots, child molesters and racists.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by aek66 View Post
      that series i told you about, nothing new in regards to contemporary tv - especially on the traditional networks.

      on that showtime series, the white people are bad. lawmakers/industry/doctors/police/religious in all those institutions are portrayed as nazis, killers, thieves, charlatans, gangsters, closeted homosexuals, bigots, child molesters and racists.
      Where do we find this series?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by JVC View Post

          Where do we find this series?
          it's not bad, one of my favorite eras..anything between the world wars. a few english actors sprinkled in..all playing german roles, accents and all. not a fan of the supernatural characters, but i was never into that stuff anyways.

          obviously, back then, radio was the biggest and most convenient form of entertainment/information. i knew that religious figures and their radio shows/revival meetings were big in that era...the depression brought people to religion. this series pushes that very hard. i can't say they're wrong, i'm no expert.

          give it a chance, you may like it.

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          • #20
            Greeksoccer was a great one. Seemed to have the most posters out of any Greek forum I'd come across. Personally, I don't think Phantis is a "communist" site. Unless I'm wrong, I don't see any thread there that's extolling the virtues of Mao Zedong haha. I like to post to both forums personally; this forum has more conversations about Greek politics and society whereas Phantis has more talk on PAOK and the Ethniki. That's my personal take.

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            • #21
              greeksoccer got hijacked by olympiakos 17 year old tough guys and one poster got threatened online, etc...turned most off. the difference is that at that time, greece's league was #6-7-8 in europe and the NT was on the cusp and then started qualifying for tournaments. much more interest in general.

              as far as phantis, your post above would have been the only post in this thread, as all other posts would have been deleted.

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              • #22
                I don't know what goes on behind closed doors or what topics/posts get deleted, but I personally have not seen any mod/member seriously praising communist leaders or extolling communist virtues. Now, the forum clearly has a Democrat bent but that is not the same as being communist.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Soprano76 View Post
                  I don't know what goes on behind closed doors or what topics/posts get deleted, but I personally have not seen any mod/member seriously praising communist leaders or extolling communist virtues. Now, the forum clearly has a Democrat bent but that is not the same as being communist.
                  It is an interesting point. I believe modern purveyors of communism find themselves a voice in the nuance of apologism rather than risking be laughed out the room by stating 'I am a communist!' We had another poster on here angry that members were not interested in watching a Erdogan funded piece of propaganda in the form of one of the many Turkish state produced soft power series. There is nuance there and often the masks slips.

                  Even in communist China you rarely get even Chinese officials extolling the virtues of communism itself like they used to do regularly a few decades ago. How their communism manifests is more in what they censor, the narratives they try to push and who they disappear.. Communism is not usually the journey for many far leftists, simply the destination of travel - that is why many former KKE voters did not hesitate to vote for the less angrily named SYRIZA and pragmatic communists globally usually lend their vote to the leftist party with the most chance of winning - rather than the party that is the furthest left.

                  Take the Guardian newspaper for example. Rarely do they themselves extol the virtues of communism directly (although they do go off the deep end occasionally) - instead what they do is censor opposing voices in the comment sections and publish countless articles apologising for China and Venezuela.. Take China itself - US Democrats in the main have been trying to shift the blame away from China and towards Trump for ages - they got so far down the rabbit hole, we even have Cuomo calling coronavirus the 'European virus.'

                  If for example someone has posts removed for questioning Black Lives Matter (no insults, no vulgarity - just simply stating it is their opinion the movement may be a dishonest reflection of the nation's current issues) - you can be pretty sure that that censorship is not being done by someone centre or centre left but someone of the hard left. The hard left's destination is usually some useless form of communism. Personally I would not call Phantis a communist site - however their desperate attempts to control of the narrative and the owner and his minion are pretty hard left - definitely on and beyond the AOC spectrum of leftism.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Soprano76 View Post
                    I don't know what goes on behind closed doors or what topics/posts get deleted, but I personally have not seen any mod/member seriously praising communist leaders or extolling communist virtues. Now, the forum clearly has a Democrat bent but that is not the same as being communist.
                    Not Communist? Maybe dictatorship? When the owner of a site reads and blocks personal messages between members, how is that fact classified? Tzatziki is Lazaros General on that site. He promotes black lives matters and points the blame on white Christians. I'm white Christian and will never vote for a Democrat....does that make me a racist? I vote Republican and a proud Greek White dual citizenship American Canadian....and I'm proud of it! Does anyone have the right to tell me otherwise?

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                    • #25
                      No JVC, you may vote how you want. I am also a proud Greek!

                      Reap, again I'm not so sure. I don't know much about the Bernie/AOC types, but my understanding is that the vast majority of their political views are in line with capitalist social democrats of Europe. The United States just has a very skewed and incorrect understanding of what "socialism" is (something I would never support). I don't think that the Democrats are waterboys for China, what gives you that impression? I don't want to derail the thread by any means, but Trump (a Republican) has heaped effusive praise on Xi, both in general and for his response to the coronavirus.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Soprano76 View Post
                        I don't think that the Democrats are waterboys for China, what gives you that impression?
                        I think we have discussed that in detail on the other thread. I think if you reread the thread you can take each point one by one and give your opinion on each one and we can do it that way rather than, repeat, repeat, repeat.. You still havent told me what you think of the video i posted on the Coronavirus thread.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Soprano76 View Post
                          No JVC, you may vote how you want. I am also a proud Greek!

                          Reap, again I'm not so sure. I don't know much about the Bernie/AOC types, but my understanding is that the vast majority of their political views are in line with capitalist social democrats of Europe. The United States just has a very skewed and incorrect understanding of what "socialism" is (something I would never support). I don't think that the Democrats are waterboys for China, what gives you that impression? I don't want to derail the thread by any means, but Trump (a Republican) has heaped effusive praise on Xi, both in general and for his response to the coronavirus.
                          Its not that the USA has a skewed view on socialism....they have a problem with the mechanisms surrounding it. The facts are and backed up with analytics, family structure and upbringing supports the biggest factors to success. The facts are all there....example %75 of the African American community children grow up fatherless. Lets bring up white trailer trash....all these facts inbreds failure. Countries in the European union that have %50 of the working force employed by the government. I can go on and on with examples on how to build a society for failure. IT ALL STARTS AT HOME!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Don Giovanni View Post
                            If Greeksoccer didn't die out because of all that toxicity between the Olympiacos fans and the fans of the other clubs, no one would have gone Phantis. They were happy to keep it between the 3 or 4 of them that kept the site alive all those preceding years. Let them have their forum, let us have our own. It's for the best.

                            Big picture, I honestly think it reflects where the West has been moving. The EU and NATO will probably be dead in the next few years. The US could very well break up too. This coronavirus pandemic could be the last straw. Especially given where the economy may end up going if we really can't open things up without seeing record cases again. If this shut down continues, we're heading towards a depression and the end of the US as we know it.

                            As for the political correctness, just look at this message from the UN:

                            https://twitter.com/UN/status/1262322788687323136



                            That's a real tweet from the UN! Who really believes it's healthy and good for people who are born male or female and who decide to identify as the opposite sex? That should be seen as a serious mental illness. Why are we placating these delusions? There's something seriously wrong here. This shouldn't be seen as the new normal.
                            It's really sad what happened with Greeksoccer.com, I was heavily involved with that site and witnessed some unthinkable things from some people, both in its last few months and after (when it got even more weird), Phantis then had a chance to be the new epicenter for Greek soccer forums but went all stupid and banned so many quality posters for no reason other than not being lefties, it was real madness.

                            I dont read Phantis political sections any more, its like reading the malakies the UN put out the other day that Don posted above, which I couldnt believe I read on Twitter.

                            Only the NT section is good, its primarily a PAOK forum now with some Aris too. The Aris guys are actually nice, PAOK guys think the world is against them and anyone who challenges them on their paranoia cops stupid retaliation, but of course it's ok for them to do it in Laz's house.

                            All in all, very sad and unfortunate that the greek soccer . com page went down, at its peak before all the loonies were allowed back in it was something pretty special, I even won a Greek NT jersey for winning the tipping comp in the mid 00's

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by aek66 View Post
                              greeksoccer got hijacked by olympiakos 17 year old tough guys and one poster got threatened online, etc...turned most off. the difference is that at that time, greece's league was #6-7-8 in europe and the NT was on the cusp and then started qualifying for tournaments. much more interest in general.

                              as far as phantis, your post above would have been the only post in this thread, as all other posts would have been deleted.
                              You will be amazed at the ages of those guys and their leader... we even had people from other counties joining in back then and females too

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Amorgos View Post

                                You will be amazed at the ages of those guys and their leader... we even had people from other counties joining in back then and females too
                                I remember back then....had a blast and good way to relax shooting the breeze on boring days. Anyway this place here has been going in the right direction. You said it best on Phantis forum, that place is a dying breed!
                                Last edited by JVC; 05-22-2020, 11:03 PM.

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