Armenia vs Azeri Turks

[Reaper]

Greece Armenia strengthen military ties:

https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/07/2...military-ties/

[Reaper]

Armenia politely asks Israel to stop arming Azerbaijan.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...to-azerbaijan/

[Reaper]

Turks sending their airforce to help the Azeris.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...on-high-alert/

[Reaper]

Hotting up!!

[Don Giovanni]

The reporting is dreadful. No one is willing to acknowledge the obvious that Azerbaijan has started the fighting. Turkey is lying through their teeth, denying their involved in the war and even accusing Armenia of using foreign mercenaries! It's the Turks backing the Azeris and sending in Syrian jihadis to do the fighting. The media continues to treat Turkish lies with a level of equivalency that only aids their cause.

Greece has to make these points of Turkey. They're the new Iran, the biggest sponsor of terror in the region bent upon war with her neighbors. At this point there's no reason to relent. The message needs to get across that Turkey has crossed the line and something serious needs to be done to stop this kind of behavior.

[Don Giovanni]

Fifteen more servicemen were killed during the battles against the enemy on September 27. The Artsakh Defense Ministry has published the names of the soldiers:

Sasun Grenik Nersisyan, born in 2002

Khoren Yura Khachatryan, born in 1983

Armen Nikolay Grigoryan, born in 1984

Yuri Hayk Aghasaryan, born in 2001

Garik Aram Achemyan, born in 2002

Gevorg Marzpet Galoyan, born in 2001

Gurgen Vardan Abrahamyan, born in 2001

Gor Hrant Yaravyan, born in 2002

Hovhannes Onik Apozyan, born in 2000

Aren Karen Hovhannisyan, born in 2002

Haykaz Ashot Beglaryan, born in 2000

Eric Roma Gabrielyan, born in 1979

Gurgen Eduard Hayrapetyan, born in 1988

Arthur Slavik Movsisyan, born in 1981

Vazgen Loni Mikhaelyan, born in 1998

Heroes, all of them.

[Reaper]

Apparently the muslim Azeris are taking heavy losses, but like throughout history concerning this religion, figures of their losses are hard to come by due to cultural differences.

[Don Giovanni]

They're using Israeli supplied drones to carry out attacks allegedly like this one (beware it's TRT):

https://twitter.com/Ozkok_A/status/1310574033449218049

[Don Giovanni]

The Turkish military experts are fighting side by side with Azerbaijan, who are using the Turkish weapons, including UAVs and warplanes. According to credible sources, Turkey is recruiting and transporting foreign terrorist fighters to Azerbaijan. Meanwhile, Turkey provides full political and propaganda support to Azerbaijan at the highest level of its leadership.

(emphasis mine)

The use of these jihadis is something that requires a lot of attention.

[Reaper]

Sensational how little the EU cares about Armenia given its history. Seems to the UN and NATO Armenia is miles behind even Albania. Pathetic.

[Filikieteria1821]

Unrelated to this thread, but apparently Germany has told Cyprus that Turkey won't be sanctioned, but as it relates to this scenario, so long as the EU is german centered, we will never see the EU actually function as a union. It's a glorified economic union, with all members having different foreign policy objectives.

Germany has a gigantic turkish minority, has economic ties, and debt tied up in Turkey. A move against them, in light of the corona virus economic issues and the Euro may also falter due to Germany's tentacles being so far in Turkey. Also, Turkey and Germany are united in their pasts as genocide leading nations.

I saw a graph earlier that shows all the military conflicts around Turkey and it's incredible to see how many things Turkey is involved in. This is what happens when the international community won't hold a rogue nation responsible, but this is also a prime example of Turkey needing constant conflicts to feed the islamofascist sector of its population.

Greece should send arms to armenia, but we all know it won't. God speed to Armenia as it stands alone in combating the mongols. Hopefully Russia will extend a helping hand

[Reaper]

Russia being very weak so far, calling for a ceasefire while Azeris pound the indigenous Armenians.

What needs to happen is the international community send peacekeepers and allow the region to have a referendum on what they want. Join with Armenia, join with Azerbaijan or become independent. It seems it was good enough for Kosovo, Bosnia etc but not good enough for Christian Armenians for some reason..

Concerning Bosnia:


An independence referendum was held in Bosnia and Herzegovina between 29 February and 1 March 1992, following the first free elections of 1990 and the rise of ethnic tensions that eventually led to the breakup of Yugoslavia. Independence was strongly favored by Bosniak and Bosnian Croat voters while Bosnian Serbs boycotted the referendum or were prevented from participating by Bosnian Serb authorities. The total turnout of voters was 63.4%, 99.7% of whom voted for independence. On 3 March, Chairman of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina Alija Izetbegović declared the independence of the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina and the parliament ratified the action. On 6 April, the United States and the European Economic Community recognized Bosnia and Herzegovina as an independent state and on 22 May it was admitted into the United Nations.


Why cant the same have happened when Nagorno voted for independence? Wrong religion? Nukes at Incirlik playing a role?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_N...nce_referendum

[Don Giovanni]

Russia is trying to play coy with Turkey. Also Armenia has to call Russia in, which they haven't done yet and may choose not to if they feel they cope on their own.

For me, the issue shows how irrelevant the EU has been and continues to be. When it comes to Belarus, they'll impose sanctions they say, but if Turkey send jihadis to fight Armenia, no response.

[Reaper]

EU is pro Turkish. Erdogan knows he can do as he pleases. Meanwhile in istanbul tonight, the pogroms starting..



https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1310611355251224577

[Don Giovanni]

That's a picture of Azerbaijan's dictator with his wife, who also serves as his vice-president. He even resembles Erdogan lol, but more white.

Article below cites an expert (pictured in the article) who confirms Turkey has indeed sent in Syrians jihadis to fight in Libya. These jihadis are more experienced than the Turkish ones.

Turkey today has a large army of mercenaries, dangerous with its extremist ideas, as a result of its reliance on fighters who have practiced takfirist (Radical Islam) ideas throughout the years of the Syrian war. Today, those have no choice but to rely on Turkey and its salaries from which they and their families live, and their families live in areas controlled by Turkish forces and supervised by Turkish intelligence (MIT).

For Turkey, this masterful army is a political investment to press on Russia in its national security zone, then economically as it gets sums from Tripoli Government in Libya in exchange for this army, it will demand the same from oil-rich Azerbaijan as well and a means of salvation from the burden of maintaining extremist elements who are a time-bomb. Do not forget that the United States, with its strength, has not been able to control the extremists of Afghanistan who they supported against the Soviet Union.

[Don Giovanni]

I neglected to mention, the expert is Syrian and his expertise specifically covers Turkey. He's uniquely qualified shall we say.