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  • former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Zach Fuentes suggested that Kelly would never have stood by while Trump disparaged fallen Marines, and that the paper may have conflated comments Trump made the following day.

    "You can put me on record denying that I spoke with The Atlantic," Fuentes said on Monday. "I don’t know who the sources are. I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?"
    The fact that Fuentes—Kelly’s closest ally—is now publicly denying the report from The Atlantic is a monstrous strike against the credibility of the report. Several Trump critics, including former National Security Adviser John Bolton, have also denied this happened.
    Meanwhile, Atlantic Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg conceded that they may have gotten part of the story wrong. Read about that here at The Federalist.
    He should be fired. And the reporter at Fox, Jennifer whatever, should be fired too. Those sources should come forward and get on the record if they truly stand by them. You cannot make comments like that and hide.

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    • Of course he didn't say these things. Beyond a few of their prime time personalities, it goes to show that the higher ups at Fox News would prefer to trash Trump when given the chance. It's astounding to me they would run a story that on the face of it was clearly untrue, but of course that didn't matter, they want to target Trump's military support and convince them that Trump hates them, even if they use lies to do it.

      A lot of people say Fox News is just propaganda for the Republicans and Trump, but that's not entirely true. There's a new generation of Murdochs coming through and one of them already left to support the progressive agenda. The other one is less public with his views, but it's evident he leans center-left and has no love for President Trump.
      "In my presence, POTUS has NEVER denigrated any member of the U.S. military or anyone in service to our country. "  

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      • This is hilarious.

        newly revealed audio of a March 10, 2016 conversation with then-Trump attorney Michael Cohen shows Zucker attempting to cozy up to the then-Republican front-runner.
        Zucker boasted of the importance of his network, telling Cohen "you cannot be elected president of the United States without CNN."

        "You guys have had great instincts, great guts and great understanding of everything," Zucker told Cohen. "But you're missing the boat on how it works going forward."

        Later in the conversation, Zucker expressed hesitation about contacting Cohen by email while referring to Trump fondly as "the boss."
        But you know what? I'm going to give him a call right now and I'm going wish him luck in the debate tonight."

        Zucker was referring to that night's GOP primary debate, which CNN was hosting.
        LOL how times change.
        CNN president Jeff Zucker oversees a network that has been nothing but hostile to President Trump, but newly revealed audio of a March 10, 2016 conversation with then-Trump attorney Michael Cohen shows Zucker attempting to cozy up to the then-Republican front-runner.

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          • "This is CNN, the most trusted name in news"

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            • He was even giving Cohen advise on how to prep Trump for the CNN debate. "Call him conman all day. That way in the debates he'll be used to it. It won't throw him. Hey conman... conman." Now all CNN does is call Trump conman. LOL.

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              • AG Barr recently spoke to the Chicago Tribune, and had some interesting things to say:

                “Increasingly the message of the Democrats appears to be ‘Biden or no peace.'”
                “I think we are getting into a position where we’re going to find ourselves irrevocably committed to a socialist path. And I think if Trump loses this election, that will be the case. In other words, I think now there’s a clear fork in the road for our country.”
                On mail-in voting:

                Just think about why we vote the way we vote now,
                A secret vote prevents selling and buying votes… So now we’re back in the business of selling and buying votes. Capricious distribution of ballots means harvesting, undue influence, outright coercion, paying off a postman and saying, ‘Hey, here. Here’s a few hundred dollars, give me some of your ballots.'”
                “It’ll be a close vote. People will say the president just won Nevada. ‘Oh, wait a minute! We just discovered 100,000 ballots! Every vote will be counted!’ Yeah, but we don’t know where these freaking votes came from.”
                Kass didn't get into Chicago corruption that much, but he offered the odd tidbit about Mike Madigan:

                wondering how their own federally recorded words might echo in a courtroom, from “Did we land the tuna?” to the one talking about the free Viagra and the massage parlors.
                That sounds like a fun day in court.
                Attorney General Bill Barr spoke recently with Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass and went off on Democrats over "mob violence," mail-in voting, and the idea

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                • kass is the columnist that his 'colleagues' tried to silence/get sacked, after writing a column about cook county state's attorney kim foxx/george soros/low bail and flimsy electronic monitoring for apprehended felony suspects. kass' woke colleagues stated that mr. kass is anti-semite, for making the connection. surely, any anti-semite must be corrected by losing their job...even when they didn't mention soros' religion or ethnicity in the column.

                  today, this is even more in the spotlight as a few murders in the past week were linked to suspects arrested in the previous months for felonies....and guess what?? they were out and about walking the streets killing more citizens.

                  can't wait to vote.

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                  • Soros is a protected man now. Gingrich got told off for talking about him:



                    Apparently guests on Fox News are told before they go on air not to talk about Soros. Their segment may have nothing to do with anything Soros related, they're told explicitly before they get on air, no Soros stuff.

                    Soros can get away with things the Koch brothers couldn't all because he has deeper pockets and he gets to hide behind the old anti-Semitism canard. Recently "600-plus Jewish groups" took an ad out in the New York Times in defense of Black Lives Matter citing how the movement was being false discredited by anti-Semitic tropes involving Soros. You would think the man was the prophet Mohammad or something. He's like a Harry Potter villain.

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                    • Newt Gingrich wrote an excellent piece published yesterday (hopefully some major news outlets will republish it):

                      It seems there is suddenly a movement in media to silence anyone who speaks out against George Soros—and, specifically, his funding of radical prosecutors seeking to change the criminal justice system by simply ignoring certain crimes.

                      [....] When I brought up Soros’s plan to get pro-criminal, anti-police prosecutors elected across the country, two of the show’s participants [on Fox's Outnumbered] interrupted me and forcefully asserted that Soros was not involved.
                      Soros’s plan to elect these prosecutors has been well documented already—and it has nothing to do with his spiritual or ethnic background. The Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, Politico, USA Today, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Associated Press, CBS, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel—even Fox News itself, among others, have all thoroughly reported on it.
                      He cites a slew of examples from Dallas to Philadelphia of DA's who admitted they received most of their funding from Soros' linked groups and how since they assumed office, crime has spiked in their cities. The Governor of Texas had to send in the State Patrol to police much of Dallas as a result of the DA's contempt for prosecuting criminals. Philadelphia now has the second-highest murder rate in the country. Chicago's Kim Foxx received funds a PAC Soros had funded to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Chicago has doubled their murder rate from what they were in 2019. Kim Foxx was also the DA who made sure Jussie Smolett didn't have to face charges for his race baiting hate hoax.

                      But one DA in particular stands out from the pack:

                      Former Hugo Chavez advisor and current San Francisco District Attorney Chesa Boudin was also funded by Soros and his groups. Boudin has called prison “an act of violence” and has refused to prosecute a slew of illegal acts, from public urination to the public solicitation of sex, which he deems to be “quality of life crimes.” By the way, Boudin is the foster child of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, of terrorist group Weather Underground fame. His birth parents were convicted and imprisoned for their involvement in an armed robbery-turned-homicide.
                      His foster parents were violent leftist revolutionaries (like those hippies in the Friends of Eddie Coyle). It's been said Bill Ayers launched Obama's political career from his living room.

                      Gingrich is probably right when he concludes the reason for the censorship"

                      I think the heart of this mass denial is that Democrats and the Left are watching the terrible human cost of their misguided, pro-criminal, anti-police justice policies, and they are beginning to worry that the American people will realize who is responsible for them.
                      I thought the Kochs were bad with their pro-illegal immigration, but Soros isn't even American and it's clear he's a disruptive foreign agent. He can't hide behind being Jewish as an excuse either or having the survived the Holocaust when he was a teenager (a period he described his happiest). You can't fund groups and politicians bent on promoting general lawlessness and riots. It would help if Trump made Soros and the other oligarchs who fund these efforts more of an issue.
                      Americans can’t let Twitter noise overwhelm political reality.

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                      • from what i understand, he isn't well liked by many jews, especially zionists. apparently, his political stance (he seems to have a stance on everything and sends money accordingly) is for NGOs to advance boycotts and divestment from the jewish state...and he funds accordingly.

                        i suppose that's his prerogative, but like everyone else who does the same, he's not allowed to be ghost and conjuring up his name is anti-semitism.

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                        • I sincerely mean this when I say "no offense", but how do any of you know that you are not yourselves brainwashed?

                          Like, all I'm reading for the past few pages is like a daytime soap opera or wrestling Kayfabe. Trump said this! But then Biden said that! Oh here comes Kamala! CNN is full of lies! Fox/Sky News tells it like it is! Where is the in-depth analysis of policy successes and failures for the country, instead of the high-school popularity contest?

                          talking to blacks at my job and they tell me that black kids in high school and grade school who want to learn - are successfully beaten down by peers who physically attack them when they are seen with books/school supplies going to and from school. these kids are targeted, not by trump or by the kkk, but by other blacks who hold getting an education, in contempt.
                          Like what does this mean? That blacks are inherently violent? Dumb? Against social stratification? More so than the KKK?

                          This just seems like anecdotal evidence to push a typical narrative that "blacks are keeping blacks down, not anything else".

                          i have also personally seen blacks from africa (ghana and nigeria) get ridiculed and bullied by american blacks who don't like their overall demeanor. you speak and dress too white. these blacks, who are legitimate african-americans, believe in the nuclear family, are church-goers and overly stress an education for their children. that is why they came here.
                          Like what's the deal with "legitimate african-american"? Who is a legitimate Greek? The one with a swastika tattooed on his shoulder or the one who rescues stray dogs from Monastiraki?

                          Yes, the nuclear family is a belief. There's no net benefits of a nuclear family unit over an extended family unit or single parent family unit.

                          It's kind of cheating to start from a Ghanian or Nigerian education system and claim one of the reasons they went to the U.S was because of an education system which highly disadvantages the money-less, unless they're clever enough to get a scholarship.


                          this is the conversation no one wants to have. i've heard various hints of discussing this, but this is the argument to end all arguments for those who believe that the usa is an evil, racist nation.
                          The USA does have evil and racist aspects to it since "the USA" is just an idea. There are evil and racist people in the U.S, as there are anywhere else in the world, the U.S is good at some things and worse in others but I don't get the mentality that wants to remain at the current status quo. Like ok, the U.S isn't the segregated hell-hole it was a few decades ago, and it isn't the greatest country in the history of earth, but can it be better? Yes. I'm pretty sure people had legitimate arguments for segregation back then as well, so maybe if we take the blinders off, we might see some problems impacting American society today.


                          So why don't we have a conversation and analyze political players in the same way we do football players, since their performance can also be measured, and do it without the veil of a media filter portraying them as an emperor with new clothes.

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                          • Originally posted by AEKara_Man View Post
                            I sincerely mean this when I say "no offense", but how do any of you know that you are not yourselves brainwashed?



                            Like what does this mean? That blacks are inherently violent? Dumb? Against social stratification? More so than the KKK?

                            This just seems like anecdotal evidence to push a typical narrative that "blacks are keeping blacks down, not anything else".

                            what does it mean? what was it written for??

                            to combat this branch of the forced-fed narrative that systemic racism in the usa is the sole reason why this (black kids failing in schools, not the schools failing them), that (blacks kids woefully unprepared for professional careers/higher incomes) and the other thing (white government doesn't spend on black students).

                            i reject that particular narrative - that's why i don't protest, why i reject CNN and why i will vote for trump. i have seen it with my own eyes - all my life and i live in a large city, i don't believe i'm brainwashed. i'm offering reality, what actually occurs...not what seems to be offered to eat out of a 'compassionate' hand.

                            'typical narrative that blacks keep blacks down'? sorry, it's reality. this is why my contention is that the 'race problem' in the usa is a cultural problem. systemic racism? really?? after racism has been attacked (by mainly white politicians, by the way) and eliminated legislatively??? there is no systemic racism.

                            a white cop shoots a black suspect resisting arrest where the cop feels his life is in danger - if the black suspect or his kin can't collect compensation if his civil rights were violated. yes, a racist nation. systemic racism. that is not the case.

                            if his civil rights were violated and the cop behaved illegally, a bad cop..maybe racist, maybe incompetent. no proof of 'systemic racism'. there are racist individuals, you can't outlaw beliefs, whether they offend or whether they don't conform to the morals police, whomever that is. you can outlaw actions, which the usa has done and deserves credit for. the USA didn't invent slavery and the ridiculous '1619 project'...there was no USA until the 1780s, the 'usa' was controlled by a foreign power and the usa made slavery illegal and blacks usa citizens 80 years after it's founding.

                            how about the cultural divide? just, listen to the cop. white people who do the same, also get shot. don't listen to the gangster rapper, listen to the cop. i repeat, don't listen to the gangsta' rapper, listen to the cop. the cop has a badge and is entitled to detain and question you.

                            as far as american blacks not relating to black african immigrants...sorry again. cultural problem once again. i have seen it with my own eyes. you offer nothing but CNN and blm talking points, which have been torn apart by those who spent 3 minutes laughing at what propaganda they need to tear apart.

                            you are entitled to your opinion as i'm entitled to mine. i don't believe there is 'systemic' racism in the usa and i have every right to believe that.

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                            • Originally posted by AEKara_Man View Post
                              I sincerely mean this when I say "no offense", but how do any of you know that you are not yourselves brainwashed?

                              Like, all I'm reading for the past few pages is like a daytime soap opera or wrestling Kayfabe. Trump said this! But then Biden said that! Oh here comes Kamala! CNN is full of lies! Fox/Sky News tells it like it is! Where is the in-depth analysis of policy successes and failures for the country, instead of the high-school popularity contest?


                              Like what does this mean? That blacks are inherently violent? Dumb? Against social stratification? More so than the KKK?

                              This just seems like anecdotal evidence to push a typical narrative that "blacks are keeping blacks down, not anything else".


                              Like what's the deal with "legitimate african-american"? Who is a legitimate Greek? The one with a swastika tattooed on his shoulder or the one who rescues stray dogs from Monastiraki?

                              Yes, the nuclear family is a belief. There's no net benefits of a nuclear family unit over an extended family unit or single parent family unit.

                              It's kind of cheating to start from a Ghanian or Nigerian education system and claim one of the reasons they went to the U.S was because of an education system which highly disadvantages the money-less, unless they're clever enough to get a scholarship.



                              The USA does have evil and racist aspects to it since "the USA" is just an idea. There are evil and racist people in the U.S, as there are anywhere else in the world, the U.S is good at some things and worse in others but I don't get the mentality that wants to remain at the current status quo. Like ok, the U.S isn't the segregated hell-hole it was a few decades ago, and it isn't the greatest country in the history of earth, but can it be better? Yes. I'm pretty sure people had legitimate arguments for segregation back then as well, so maybe if we take the blinders off, we might see some problems impacting American society today.


                              So why don't we have a conversation and analyze political players in the same way we do football players, since their performance can also be measured, and do it without the veil of a media filter portraying them as an emperor with new clothes.

                              ^^^

                              A lot of straw men to wade through there my Australian friend.

                              How is Lazarus these days? Still sporting the cowboy hat?

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                                yes, likely manolara aekara. it's ok if he believes in blm and etc...the cancel culture was at the old forum, not this one.

                            • He has an admitted messiah-complex--an aggrandized, God-like attitude of himself. He said the happiest time in his life was when he was a teenager during WWII. This is a man who enjoys upheaval and tumult.

                              I always tell people he's one of the biggest currency speculators in the world, yet he funded people and groups who directed those Occupy Wall St protests. No one funds a protest against themselves, but that goes to show the lengths he's willing to go to create tensions and conflict to activate the political change he seeks.

                              When that didn't work out as he had hoped, his foundation-backed groups went from pushing class conflict to race conflict; from Occupy Wall St to BLM. The Democratic party didn't want upset their donor class, so they went after cops. It's easier to blame the cops instead of bad policies. God forbid anyone went after Democrats, who fearing they appeared to weak on crime after Dukakis' failed presidential candidacy, went even further than Republicans on crime bills.

                              The scary part is that the political developments playing out now in the US today mirrored what was happening in Ukraine in 2014. The leader of the country was accused of being a Russian puppet. There too racial tensions were exploited. The Ukrainians were victims of Russian genocide. There's a Russian minority that moved in the east during Soviet times, which is at the heart of the civil war playing out. Also exploited was the public anger with local police who were accused of corruption. The media really pushed stories of how police had raped or protected a rapist. It played into the corruption narrative in general, but those stories received the most air time because it fomented the most anger. It's just like the US with stories of police killing blacks, even though the bigger problem is about the perception of abuse blacks suffer at the hands of cops. That anger with the cops in Ukraine led to the Maiden Square protests. Once those snipers fired upon the crowd, killing cops and protesters alike, it blew up into a civil war.

                              That's the kind of fire Soros and his fellow billionaires are playing with. They're so wealthy, they think they're above it all and that none of it can affect them. They can't be allowed to play these games. At some point someone has to call it out and put a stop to it.

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