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  • Votanikos Stadium

    Bizarre news today.

    A potential mayor of Athens, Bakoyiannis, stated he would revisit the idea of Votanikos. In theory the site still has full permissions and work could in effect start there tomorrow. The half built Vovos mall is now owned by the banks and any deal would have to be agreed with them:

    https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...h.5475017.html

    Sadly, the pot-heads at the amateur sunk the idea immediately and were even offended he suggested it - as their one and only true love is the tiny site at Leoforos..

    https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...h.5475259.html

  • #2
    Look at some growth and prosperity only to be shut down by some old fart who won’t want Leoforos abandoned even though it currently is.

    Just curious, does Leoforos get used for anything now days?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Amorgos View Post
      Look at some growth and prosperity only to be shut down by some old fart who won’t want Leoforos abandoned even though it currently is.

      Just curious, does Leoforos get used for anything now days?
      Nope!

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      • #4
        All this is a bunch of horse shit....this project is dead, and will never be approached. Too add, for anyone getting involved there will open up landmines that exist well beneath. From what I know, PAO will never step foot, simply because they would take on another 40 million dollars in debts, the debts that the family left behind and hidden. This is the part that makes people believe Alafouzo is the puppet of the family....because he is willing to approach, but the amateur and Dimitri would never.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Reaper View Post

          Nope!
          Basically, PAO will only move on this using the current conditions held by law. First Leofors has to be claimed by the government for demolishing, and turned into green space. Second by law the government needs to build the stadium, and pay off debts held by the 2 banks of the previous construction companies. The total sum of this I believe is 100 million dollars total....stadium plus the debts.

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          • #6
            https://www.sdna.gr/podosfairo/super...pomenei-ok-toy

            Things are moving along all sides agreeing on Votanikos plans. The new ND government should push it through after the elections.

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            • #7
              I'm unclear how they can build a stadium without Alafouzos. Does this mean Alafouzos would sell to Giannakopoulos?

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=Panatha;n4753]I'm unclear how they can build a stadium without Alafouzos. Does this mean Alafouzos would sell to Giannakopoulos?[/QUOT

                Alafouzo will sit back and collect, it's called capitalism....he paid the debts, time to be rewarded. That said it's up to Dimitri, drop 50 million and buy out Alafouzo.

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                • #9
                  Idiot Dimitri wants a 38k stadium at Votanikos, 2k below the 40k limit for UEFA/ FIFA tournament competitions. What a fucking idiot he is. Can never do anything properly.

                  https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...o.5547416.html

                  His speech was the speech of an idiot. He still thinks 'Athens Alive' is the best option but couldn't explain why other than it would involve him making millions off state owned property. He was correctly asked why he made the amateur dismiss the idea of Votanikos in march (rudely and arrogantly) and yet now is for it. He answered that it has political support.

                  He is naturally stupid and arrogant, but at this stage, he is all PAO has - a slightly richer Kougias type intellect. It is vital the Greek Government ensures the new Votanikos Stadium is 40k at the very least to ensure future UEFA and FIFA tournaments are held in Hellas. Building a 38k stadium instead of a 40k is the equivalent of building a car with only 1 door. This stadium has the guarantee the future of Athenian and Hellenic football - not just be a token stadium tagged on to a 15k basketball arena as Dimitri wants.

                  On top of this weird but predictable press release, Dimitri stated he wants 20 million - from the fans - - or he will leave the deal - a deal he is putting none of his own money into. Only in Greece..

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                  • #10
                    It seems to be many moving parts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if Alafouzo gets his own group of investors to get involved. Think about it, how long will this take to get 20 million together and buy out Alafouzo? Who will cover the budget and commitments until then? At the end of the day, Alafouzo still is responsible for the clubs commitments.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JVC View Post
                      It seems to be many moving parts to this. I wouldn't be surprised if Alafouzo gets his own group of investors to get involved. Think about it, how long will this take to get 20 million together and buy out Alafouzo? Who will cover the budget and commitments until then? At the end of the day, Alafouzo still is responsible for the clubs commitments.
                      Dimitri has said if he doesn't get the money from the fans by this time next year, he is quitting the project he proposed today.

                      Dimitri needs €20 million from fans - for what he says is his second best option of Votanikos.. He also said he will take on any debts Alafouzos has created. Alafouzos most likely will now just wait until next summer and see if the €20 million is there..

                      It all comes down to whether fans are willing to pony up €20 million to this guy - who is putting in zero of his own money - into what he describes as his second best option at Votanikos..


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                      • #12
                        The whole thing makes no sense. In order for the stadium to go through, you need signatures , and at this point only Alafouzo can sign. My gut instinct is....Alafouzo will work this alone. Obviously Dimitri is full of shit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JVC View Post
                          The whole thing makes no sense. In order for the stadium to go through, you need signatures , and at this point only Alafouzo can sign. My gut instinct is....Alafouzo will work this alone. Obviously Dimitri is full of shit.
                          Interestingly, Dimitri says the money to fund the stadium (from banks and the state) is already there. So in theory - Alafouzos does not need Dimitri to do it if he wanted to..

                          This Votakinos stadium - a 40k football arena in downtown athens is unique because:

                          1/ Banks want the development to happen.
                          2/ Government - both at local and national level want this stadium to be built there.
                          3/ Fans want it.
                          4/ Greece and PAO need it.

                          So what is the potential block? Only Dimitri and Alafouzos. Both lack charisma and and an IQ over 100 to do something - everyone - banks, Government, fans etc - want.

                          Dimitri is still sore his idiot Athens Alive project where he would have made millions on publicly owned land was binned.
                          Alafouzos is a disorganised liar who pays staff months late and has no interest in PAO becoming a bigger club what so ever.

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                          • #14
                            https://m.sport24.gr/football/omades...s.5548004.html

                            Maybe the family will get on board.

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                            • #15
                              It seems Agiostatitis will be employed to design the new PAO stadium at Votanikos. He is an excellent architect. He designed the Karaiskaki and proposed the previous design for the 36,000 capacity AEK stadium:



                              The idiot Dimitri is still trying to shove his basketball arena on to the stadium plot. This will automatically null the permissions. He is being told by the new Athens mayor to buy the adjacent plot to build the basketball arena as the main plot is tied to the mall and contains the main permissions.

                              https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...o.5556990.html

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