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  • Stadium Development

    For me, perhaps the most vital part of improving Hellenic football and boosting the country in general.

    Next year the new AEK stadium will be ready.

    That means that Hellas has 2 elite stadiums in the Karaiskaki and Agia Sofia that any nation on earth would be happy to include in their top league. However this is not enough and neither of the two can be expanded to the 40k capacity needed for Greece to co-host a UEFA tournament.

    So this is what we need to happen:

    Karaiskaki 32k
    Agia Sofia 30k


    Neo Toumba 40k
    Votanikos 40k

    Aris rebuild 28k -30k.


    This is a modest model but one that will raise Hellenic football immensely.

    If we add the AEL Arena to the list - Hellas actually will have impressive league to watch every weekend as there will be at least few games available in blue chip stadia:

    Votanikos 40k
    Nea Toumba 40k
    Karaiskaki 32k
    Agia Sofia 30k
    Aris 28k - 30k.
    AEL 16k

    This model above will be enough to dominate the entire Balkan region football wise. It is imperative both the Nea Tomba and Votanikos crest 40k seats so secure not only future demand as the cities grow and cater to fierce european nights but future Uefa bids.

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    I hope this is not true but there is reports Larisa's clown owner may take them back to the 1960' Alcazar Stadium next season to avoid paying the higher rental price of AEL Arena...

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    • #3
      Great points Reaper...

      I also think on top of this we need the teams to trust and give opportunities to more Greek players. There are plenty of talented youth and it’s more cheaper. Giving them exposure will help in the long run. Especially when the clubs want to sell them for a good price to a better team in the future. Our league isn’t like the EPL or Serie A, where they have top quality foreigners. We should be giving young Greeks more chances. Every team in the super league should at least have 5-6 Greek players in their starting 11...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Amorgos View Post
        I hope this is not true but there is reports Larisa's clown owner may take them back to the 1960' Alcazar Stadium next season to avoid paying the higher rental price of AEL Arena...
        The problem is they average 3k a game at best....so business wise it would make sense if the rent was increased. Him fighting for rent to stay the same rate has merit, and he will probably get his way.

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        • #5
          The problem with AEL is the fans actually despise not only Kougias but the actual AEL Arena. They say it has no soul and have been pushing for a return to the Alcazar for years..

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          • #6
            He does not allow the Ultras into games so that could account for that but seriously, do they have rocks for brains? It's a great venue vs a 1960's outdated stadium, make the most out of it

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            • #7
              Seems the AEL fans are just going to have to learn to the AEL Arena and the owners will have to make it more fan friendly.

              Let us hope Bakoyannis does not produce a plans for the Votanikos below 35k seats.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Amorgos View Post
                I hope this is not true but there is reports Larisa's clown owner may take them back to the 1960' Alcazar Stadium next season to avoid paying the higher rental price of AEL Arena...
                Its so stupid that AEL Arena is not owned by AEL, a club needs to have its own stadium.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dean97 View Post
                  Great points Reaper...
                  We should be giving young Greeks more chances. Every team in the super league should at least have 5-6 Greek players in their starting 11...
                  One of Martins' assistants mentioned that and the need for better stadiums:

                  https://hellas-football.com/forum/su...0929#post10929

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                  • #10
                    I saw a bit of Lamia v AEL over the weekend. One of the ends is made up of sheds. The only thing more dilapidated than the stadium that game was old man Vyntra.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Don Giovanni View Post
                      I saw a bit of Lamia v AEL over the weekend. One of the ends is made up of sheds. The only thing more dilapidated than the stadium that game was old man Vyntra.
                      It is such a key issue. It affects everything. It was interesting. When Erdogan was beginning his rebuild of the Ottoman Empire - before invading nations, before new weapons - before anything - he made sure the state upgraded all Turkey's dilapidated stadiums. That brings a nation instant prestige. Mitsotakis is correct to help PAOK and PAO build new stadiums. Shame Aris is broke - the offer was there to help them also.

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                      • #12
                        Agia Sofia will be proposed to host the final of the new Europa League 2/Europa Conference League either in 2022 or 2023

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                        • #13
                          I’ve just read that the new Votanikos arena will be ready for the 2023-24 season. This good news hopefully the new Toumba will be ready by then. Here is a video of the future stadiums in Greece. Don’t know how realistic it will be especially the situation with Aris.

                          https://youtu.be/wgkjTUxXK14

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                          • #15
                            Spatial plan for the new Toumba released for a month's consultation.

                            http://www.ypeka.gr/el-gr/Public_Consultation

                            The plan describes a stadium with a enough internal room to comfortably have a capacity of 45,000. Just as I assumed, the plot is huge, far bigger than AEK's small plot. Whether the Greeks are intelligent enough to go for the 40k + capacity the fans desire is another matter. However the space is there to make the best football stadium in the Balkans.

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